2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Xyz22]

Yeah, compared to last year Ferrari now is matching RB deg, but with less overall pace.

[AR3-GP]

Leclerc started on a new medium tire. Verstappen started on a used medium tire.

[venkyhere]

I do not normally do this, but SAI has had a really bad sprint race. I don't care much about making a mistake when taking risks, but if you are racing to finish behind a VCARB then you maybe shouldn't be racing. Maybe something is wrong in his car, but finishing 11.5s behind your team mate in 19 laps is laughable.

I think Sainz the pragmatist simply played his risk v reward game. He knows RIC is driving for his life and VCARB is desperate for points in their "bottom-dogfight". Any divebombing move that places trust in the car ahead to play respectfully, is fraught with risk. Ferrari cannot lose a car before the main race. I am guessing this is the reason.

[Sevach]

We need to get quali right or the race will be a complete disaster.
Pace was good. Race on with Perez and Norris providing we can qualify well.

If Max has an off-session ( or even a bad lap like he did in SQ) and qualifies outside of the top 3 then Ferrari has the pace to keep him at bay in the race IMO. It's very tight

I'm not sure because they have superior straight line speed.

The pace was decent for sure just as currently setup the car will struggle to battle.

[Vanja #66]

Yeah, compared to last year Ferrari now is matching RB deg, but with less overall pace.

This was a slower Red Bull to save the tyres, I think they raised tyre pressure a bit to prevent overheating. The real performance gap is around 5 tenths, as we saw in Suzuka

[Xyz22]

Yeah, compared to last year Ferrari now is matching RB deg, but with less overall pace.

This was a slower Red Bull to save the tyres, I think they raised tyre pressure a bit to prevent overheating. The real performance gap is around 5 tenths, as we saw in Suzuka

In Suzuka Leclerc was on a suboptimal strategy and behind traffic in the first stint so we don't really know, unless you are talking about quali? In that case, i agree.

[scuderiabrandon]

Belgium and Baku? Is the wing just a lower downforce and not LOW df? So they have 3 wings then for the season?

4? Monaco spec?

From high to low, they will definitely use Monaco (high), medium (the one used now), Belgium/Baku (low) and the lowest - Monza/Vegas wing. Last year they sometimes had balance issues, so had to use mid-high-level wing in some races where highest load is needed.

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They still have that med-high wing though, it was brought to Japan in case of rain. I expect it to be used in Imola. They should have 5 specs this season judging by the ones they have brought already. Cut down from 7 from in 2023.


Monza spec (low)
Spa (med-low)
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Monaco spec

[Vanja #66]

In Suzuka Leclerc was on a suboptimal strategy and behind traffic in the first stint so we don't really know, unless you are talking about quali? In that case, i agree.

Was thinking of Sainz, Max was also cruising in final stint basically so the actual gap was more than "official" 4 tenths

[f1316]

In Suzuka Leclerc was on a suboptimal strategy and behind traffic in the first stint so we don't really know, unless you are talking about quali? In that case, i agree.

Was thinking of Sainz, Max was also cruising in final stint basically so the actual gap was more than "official" 4 tenths

Right but very different track that was never going to be Ferrari’s best. The opposite may, of course, be true here - ie this track flatters Ferrari ala Melbourne - but there’s an ebb and flow. The upgrade won’t close the gap on tracks like Suzuka, no doubt, but might be close on tracks that already suit the Ferrari car.

[deadhead]

0.5s is a lot to ask from an upgrade package?

0.2s sounds more realistic to me

[scuderiabrandon]

0.5s is a lot to ask from an upgrade package?

0.2s sounds more realistic to me

The car is internally referred to as the 2.0 car. I'd hope it brings more than 2 tenths which is typically your standard size package in F1.

[Vanja #66]

Right but very different track that was never going to be Ferrari’s best. The opposite may, of course, be true here - ie this track flatters Ferrari ala Melbourne - but there’s an ebb and flow. The upgrade won’t close the gap on tracks like Suzuka, no doubt, but might be close on tracks that already suit the Ferrari car.

Suzuka was not so bad at all in the end. The gap there was an accurate representation, it's a proper racing track. RB20 is running softer than Ferrari and it helps them a lot in slow speed, as we've seen today as well. We'll see how the car will change from Imola, they might be able to go softer too and not lose anything in medium and high speed.

[LetHimTrough]

And Red Bull brought upgrades in Suzuka.

Do we have an idea of how fast this new Red Bull is?

I think it is brilliant, and bodes well a Ferrari v1 vs Red Bull v1.5 and lose only 3sec in 19 laps. Even factoring other considerations.

[scuderiabrandon]

And Red Bull brought upgrades in Suzuka.

Do we have an idea of how fast this new Red Bull is?

I think it is brilliant, and bodes well a Ferrari v1 vs Red Bull v1.5 and lose only 3sec in 19 laps. Even factoring other considerations.

I believe the upgrades for Red Bull far exceeded expectations

[Space-heat]

And Red Bull brought upgrades in Suzuka.

Do we have an idea of how fast this new Red Bull is?

I think it is brilliant, and bodes well a Ferrari v1 vs Red Bull v1.5 and lose only 3sec in 19 laps. Even factoring other considerations.

I believe the upgrades for Red Bull far exceeded expectations

Wasn't the expectation 1-1.5 tenths?

edit: "Red Bull’s engineers believe they have gained a tenth of performance" - https://formu1a.uno/en/ferrari-within-t ... e-the-gap/